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  • Nuyoah_54
    2017/5/18 8:58:55
    有问题就要解决

    《问题餐厅》的剧情非常简单,没有什么复杂的情节,大部分场景也多是角色之间的交流沟通。

    看似无聊,但是随着情节的展开,人物性格的刻画愈加细腻,那些碎碎念的台词也都能给人会心一击。

    《问题餐厅》围绕着7位个性迥异的女性展开,揭露当今社会种种性别病症,话题直指女权与男权的正面对击。在这样一部偏都市化、女性轻熟化的新剧中,唐玉就职于一家男权主义盛行的餐饮公司,却受制于职场对女

    《问题餐厅》的剧情非常简单,没有什么复杂的情节,大部分场景也多是角色之间的交流沟通。

    看似无聊,但是随着情节的展开,人物性格的刻画愈加细腻,那些碎碎念的台词也都能给人会心一击。

    《问题餐厅》围绕着7位个性迥异的女性展开,揭露当今社会种种性别病症,话题直指女权与男权的正面对击。在这样一部偏都市化、女性轻熟化的新剧中,唐玉就职于一家男权主义盛行的餐饮公司,却受制于职场对女性地位的歧视与压迫,在对残忍现实的对抗之后,唐玉愤然离开公司,召集六个性格迥异的女性朋友,共同开起一家天台餐厅。

    《问题餐厅》比较讨巧的一点是,它一方面讲述着女性的遭遇、激烈的矛盾,另一方面用励志与美食进行了包裹,格调清新温暖。而且它沿袭了日剧的传统,拍食物拍得格外走心

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  • 诸葛羽
    2014/11/8 16:30:06
    中立影评,不吹不贬。平心而论,不是烂片。

    全城通缉已上映3日,作为和《最推理》关系良好的悬疑作者,我第一时间去支持了该片。整体来说,我给电影打7分,觉得是可以满意的。
    下面我稍微详细的聊一下这部剧,并且同时希望一贯支持我的读者们,也去电影院支持一下这部国产悬疑电影。

    首先我们来说为何是7分剧,第一,从总分10分来说。她的确达不到9分以上的悬疑神剧的级别,那个是蝴蝶效应、盗梦空间才有的分数。然后,他也肯定比许多国

    全城通缉已上映3日,作为和《最推理》关系良好的悬疑作者,我第一时间去支持了该片。整体来说,我给电影打7分,觉得是可以满意的。
    下面我稍微详细的聊一下这部剧,并且同时希望一贯支持我的读者们,也去电影院支持一下这部国产悬疑电影。

    首先我们来说为何是7分剧,第一,从总分10分来说。她的确达不到9分以上的悬疑神剧的级别,那个是蝴蝶效应、盗梦空间才有的分数。然后,他也肯定比许多国产大雷剧要好,所以也不会是5以下的剧。至于是6还是7,则是全凭个人喜好,我以为尽管拍摄剪辑有这样那样的问题,而且的确有些漏洞在剧情里,但整个故事不落俗套,演员表演也很到位,作为一部认真努力的作品,当得起7分的评价。也就是优良中差里的良。


    一部好的悬疑剧,主要有3个标准。
    1故事有没有重大漏洞。2你看剧情过半,能否猜到结尾。3演员是否认真,电影拍摄的气氛是否合适。
    我觉得这部戏正常观众看到一个小时,也很难猜到结局,所以这部戏是成功的。


    下面我们来具体说说这部戏,本文有重大剧透,不喜欢的请绕路。
    因为只看了一遍,可能有没注意到的细节,这里只是初步说一下,有说错的请别在意。

    我们先说优点

    1刘烨和赵文卓的戏都很好,尤其是刘烨的戏很自然,很真实。这年头要选一个合适的演员来做主角已经很难,所以首先要表扬的是定他们两个做主角的老大们。这两个人是这个电影成功的关键。
    全城通缉里的人物并不简单,10年的时间,每个人都在变化。刘烨演的唐越,从刑警队长到失去爱妻的伤心人。赵文卓演的邵云峰,从一个出轨男,到一个复仇者,再到陷入自己制造的感情漩涡的男人。两人的立场和行为都经得起推敲。两人的对手戏,是近年很少有的好戏。

    2整个故事,的确是层层推进,一直在用下一个场景来推翻上一个线索。看得出编剧是刻意要达到这个效果,做的很用心。而且整个故事不落俗套,几乎没有大漏洞。
    “全城通缉”和普通常见的罪案剧是有很大区别的。普通罪案剧,解谜的中心在于寻找凶手,揭晓凶手后就没有卖点了。而这部剧在寻找凶手的同时,逐步解开的是正反两方主角的个人命运。从10年前的枪击案,失踪案,到10年后众人最终的命运,在前头认真的铺承后,在最后30分钟引来了一个又一个爆发。

    3电影的色调很不错,很有悬疑剧的感觉。事先听说是韩国高手在做,物有所值。整体感觉超出国产剧平均水平很多。

    4故事有意识的运用武汉的各个地方作为背景,相信会在一定的地方引起观众共鸣。


    好了,我们不刻意吹捧。接下来说说疑点并解疑。最后说缺点。

    疑点主要有4个


    1是赵文卓的两种状态。当刘烨第一次进入赵文卓的屋子,他看到一条围巾和口红印,然后赵文卓出现,刘烨躲在窗帘后,看到了赵文卓和“鬼魂”打交道的场景。然后当刘烨被赵文卓抓住,两人聊了对鬼魂的态度。赵文卓刻意的告诉他,必须喝了那个药水,才能看到林岚的鬼魂。
    之后,在刘烨逃出屋子,被关到精神病看守所,就不断说必须喝药水才能看到林岚。

    这一段看得人一头雾水,特别是导演似乎有种刻意像鬼片靠拢,来制造气氛的倾向。所以很可能让人以为赵文卓以及在窗帘后就看到幻影的刘烨,两人本身在精神上就有问题。所以有人的影评里说,看到这里可能会以为二人有一个是有多重人格的。
    其实如果在片尾做一个简单交代,就能解决这组模棱两口的镜头。简单来说,这个情节,就是赵文卓发现围巾有人动过时,发现了刘烨躲在窗帘后,故意当他面演了一出鬼戏。然后在捕获刘烨时,强调必须喝药水才能看到死去的林岚,以此达到一种心理暗示,使得假林岚能够正常出现在对方面前。

    这一点由于前后故事交代不清楚,在镜头飞快掠过的情况下,只能靠观众去猜。能第一时间看清楚情节的,都是高智商的孩子。

    2刘烨先在停车场收到发卡,然后发生命案,然后邵雨来找他帮忙。作为前刑警队长的刘烨应该从开始就觉得邵雨有问题,而且只要略作调查,就应该可以知道她不是白晓若。那么如果她不是白晓若,她会是谁?这本来是一个很简单的突破口。

    3以被催眠的假林岚的状态,她能做到去杀赵文卓的合伙人?还做得那么干净利落?貌似有点不合理。

    3关于刘烨原本是关在精神病看守所,然后很快越狱成功。这里缺少一个过渡交代,一,要么他是凭自己本事越狱的,这将会是一场精彩的动作戏,但是没有拍。二,要么他是靠杨队里应外合越狱的,所以他和老杨一直是一伙的。但镜头也没清楚交代,貌似镜头交代了杨队一掠而过的表情,但这对大多数观众是不够的。杨队最明显的一次放水,是在刘烨从大桥上逃离,当他仍旧在包围圈内时,杨队没有大举追击,而是调动外围的派出所民警。当时他的部下曾经提出异议。
    总之老杨是自己人。

    疑点是见仁见智的事,基本还在可以接受的范围的。

    下面我们来说下电影的某些不算严重,但如果被注意到,可以把电影提升一些的缺点。


    1仍旧是演员,演员其实没有问题,但既然选了功夫明星赵文卓,就应该相应给他一点打戏。或许是我不知道内情,他自己要求减少打戏?作为一个武打明星,在该片最后几个场景几乎就是挨打。这肯定会让为了他的动作戏而进场的观众有些失落。
    说到这里,这部片子的动作戏,其实就3个场景,1开头那一枪,2林子熊落水前的打斗。3最后刘烨殴打赵文卓。

    动作戏太少,使得电影不够热闹。在爆米花电影当道的今天,固然不是每一部戏都要能打。但可以发挥的地方还是该发挥。个人以为最好发挥的地方,是刘烨深夜里离开精神病看守所。那是一场越狱戏,不管是不是里应外合,即便拍不出谍影重重的效果,也至少有2到3组动作镜头来交代下。越狱本来是很有看点的。
    可惜电影里甚至没有交代这个过程。不知是拍了被剪掉了,还是导演压根没考虑。

    2开篇节奏的问题。
    说不上节奏慢,开头20分钟,已经把案子和初步线索布置好了。但因为镜头处理的关系,反复说的都是十年前的案子,而不是给当下的线索。所以出现了让人走神的问题。

    3本该加大戏份的杨队。

    故事结构不大,总共也就是 刘烨、赵文卓、林岚、邵雨、方晴、杨队、林子熊,这几个人。也就是说,抓刘烨老婆的人,必须是这些人其中一个。然后去掉可能性最小的方晴,以及刘烨自己。再去掉确认死亡的林岚、林子熊。就剩下了赵文卓、邵雨和杨队。

    杨队一点嫌疑也没沾上,这个人物出场好几次,主要作用是给刘烨放水。但放水又放的不够清楚,所以导致刘烨几次的行动都有疑点。这真是遗憾。

    所以作为腹黑的观众,我觉得杨队这个人物是被浪费了。如果他换个队伍,转而是赵文卓一伙的,不仅可以解释,为何10年前,刘烨作为刑警队长却调查不出自己未婚妻的失踪案。(因为可能被杨抹掉证据,至于他为何背叛刘烨,可以有各种理由)还可以增加刘烨“越狱”和逃脱“全城通缉”的难度。让全程通缉变得更名副其实。最后还能加一场他和刘烨之间的动作戏。

    因为这个人物没被利用好,而整个故事原本就人物不多,结果就好猜了。我大约在邵雨被关的时候,判定她是赵文卓的孩子,而不是天马行空外的某个人。因为剧情到那个地步,已经容不得再加人物了。然后就能确定,刘烨的未婚妻可能被整容。

    有影评说,这是女版的夺面双雄。有点道理的。


    4最后是结尾的遗憾。悲剧在国产剧中是不流行的。哪怕是外国片子,最近几年也没啥悲剧卖座。“全城通缉”,整个故事的基调是灰色的。结局也的确有一定的力度。
    我个人是支持他未婚妻跳楼这个做法的。但我觉得也许结局可以留给刘烨一点光明的力量。比如说加一个场景,老楼拆了他终于重新开始他的人生了。这样可以和他开头出现的那个场景做一个回应。老楼在这部片子里,算是一个很重要的场景。而且,这个电影说是利用足了武汉的背景,但其实没有特别漂亮的景点镜头。也许可以加在最后吧。


    看到网络上有很多喷子说这部剧的槽点,很多都是没有认真看片直接就上来喷的。如果不是做事非常不负责任,就可能是竞争对手别有用心雇的水军吧。认真做的国产电影本就不多,要竞争请多做一些有技术含量的事。

    除开那几个不大的漏洞,以及几处镜头没有交代清楚,而产生的疑点,整个故事算是一个比较圆满的悬疑故事。如果大家支持国产悬疑电影,请到电影院支持。
    毕竟在目前这个动不动用假“鬼”做噱头,用精神问题来解释最终结局的大陆悬疑市场,这样认真的制作实属难得。

    哦,表扬和支持过后,最后吐槽一点。那条一直吊人胃口的线索“你不是白雪”,最后解释为“你不是白雪公主”,这实在扯蛋。



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  • UP罐子啊
    2022/6/22 21:30:20
    和小天使一起继续向前
    这篇剧评可能有剧透 终于!!小天使成为了王牌!!!激动的我都要与小天使一起颤抖了,看着小天使一步步踏实的成长,就像看到了自己不被(除家人挚友外的人)期待却努力向上的人生轨迹,真的非常替他开心。 虽然剧情逐渐套娃,但是依旧精彩,完全不够看,麻利儿的去补漫画!! 追番的这两周多,真...
    这篇剧评可能有剧透 终于!!小天使成为了王牌!!!激动的我都要与小天使一起颤抖了,看着小天使一步步踏实的成长,就像看到了自己不被(除家人挚友外的人)期待却努力向上的人生轨迹,真的非常替他开心。 虽然剧情逐渐套娃,但是依旧精彩,完全不够看,麻利儿的去补漫画!! 追番的这两周多,真...  (展开)
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  • 米·斯特周
    2017/8/31 1:24:10
    妈蛋竟然被骗了,我还认真地做了笔记!?!
    这篇影评可能有剧透 影片的故事线还算完整,无聊的时候可以看一下... 说说我做的笔记吧……(不能浪费了!!) 1. 德国军官火箭筒那一炮是故意打偏的,要是把他们炸死就得不到公式了。。。 2. 德国长官有作为一个军人的警觉,挺聪明的,知道叫士兵先检查一下,躲过了两次陷阱。 3. 碰到手榴弹陷阱
    这篇影评可能有剧透 影片的故事线还算完整,无聊的时候可以看一下... 说说我做的笔记吧……(不能浪费了!!) 1. 德国军官火箭筒那一炮是故意打偏的,要是把他们炸死就得不到公式了。。。 2. 德国长官有作为一个军人的警觉,挺聪明的,知道叫士兵先检查一下,躲过了两次陷阱。 3. 碰到手榴弹陷阱...  (展开)
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  • 泪萦
    2022/5/22 20:22:48
    今年520最佳甜剧

    对这部剧的兴趣是从预告开始的,裤恰好有会员,推给了我。不得不说剪辑很能抓住观众的心,毕竟这类剧的受众还是女性观众,而我们现在的喜好已经不是霸总傻白能敷衍的,土狗也是会挑的。

    在大批量和各种题材恋爱短剧以及所谓s+剧的包围之下,如何脱颖而出就成了各方考虑的重点。

    对这部剧的兴趣是从预告开始的,裤恰好有会员,推给了我。不得不说剪辑很能抓住观众的心,毕竟这类剧的受众还是女性观众,而我们现在的喜好已经不是霸总傻白能敷衍的,土狗也是会挑的。

    在大批量和各种题材恋爱短剧以及所谓s+剧的包围之下,如何脱颖而出就成了各方考虑的重点。

    本短剧集中了当下最基本的恋爱剧要素,比如霸总、年下、突发情况,有意思的是该剧把霸总剧本换了换,本来最经常出现也是最俗套的情节用在了女主身上,油腻感顿时被转变了,反而有点新奇,就算看着尴尬地抓地抠出别墅,但不得不说搞笑大过其他,这个度导演把握得很好,要是再拉长点那就又变回了油腻。

    故事情节非常简单而且挺俗的,一见钟情、失忆、豪门争家产等都融入其中,有些bug但并不影响观感,想想看,现在多少国产恋爱剧讲不好一个完整的故事,作为一集10分钟左右的短剧,清晰抓住了重点和定位,该有的糖,该有的小细节,该有的人设都没漏下,一口气看完能感受到甜蜜、有代入感,这部剧也就成功了。

    当然,也有不足,比如男二剧情的突兀,比如还是有注水,但就跟男主另一部不错的念念无明给人的感觉一样,瑕不掩瑜,不是一部粉丝专供剧。至少在我这里,它成功在几大平台几十上百部短剧里出彩,也比某些注水的长电视剧完整。

    谢谢你们给了我一个甜美的故事。

    我吃到糖了~

    (男主、女主台词、演技、眼神戏再练练,我很期待你们更棒的自己和作品。)

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  • 立志做个幸福儿
    2018/7/27 0:22:10
    爱就在身边

    时隔好久的追剧,今天终于结束了??看完之后有感动,有开心,但总觉得有些未完的感觉。

    牛爷爷的可爱真的是让人沉溺其中无法自拔,怎么可以有这么可爱的爷爷??想想我们自己的父母,是不是也因为我们而放弃了一些什么呢?

    其实我在想,爱情到了最后,就变成了这个对家的依恋与责任,是好还是不好,我们无法去定义~因为悸动,所以欣赏,从欣赏到喜欢,都是慢慢贴近的过程,不管生活多么的琐事缠

    时隔好久的追剧,今天终于结束了??看完之后有感动,有开心,但总觉得有些未完的感觉。

    牛爷爷的可爱真的是让人沉溺其中无法自拔,怎么可以有这么可爱的爷爷??想想我们自己的父母,是不是也因为我们而放弃了一些什么呢?

    其实我在想,爱情到了最后,就变成了这个对家的依恋与责任,是好还是不好,我们无法去定义~因为悸动,所以欣赏,从欣赏到喜欢,都是慢慢贴近的过程,不管生活多么的琐事缠身又充斥哐啷哐啷的锅碗瓢盆声,只要身边是那个我爱的又深深爱着我的人,我都是安心的!

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  • 我该去哪里寻找
    2016/4/14 17:36:49
    春风再美也比不过你的笑——致路途
    ——我好像在哪里见过你。

    路途,零缺点boy,好似一缕春风吹过,那么和煦温暖,令人心旷神怡。

    他遇到了命定的她,他们相爱,相守,在上海滩的纸醉金迷里挥洒青春。

    故事讲到这里,仿佛一切都很完美。然而该来的还是会来,半点不由人。看似浪漫实则脆弱的爱情小蓓蕾,在时代的洪流和人性的本能面前都显得那么苍白可笑。

    ——对方要的却偏偏是自己最缺的,爱情的讨
    ——我好像在哪里见过你。

    路途,零缺点boy,好似一缕春风吹过,那么和煦温暖,令人心旷神怡。

    他遇到了命定的她,他们相爱,相守,在上海滩的纸醉金迷里挥洒青春。

    故事讲到这里,仿佛一切都很完美。然而该来的还是会来,半点不由人。看似浪漫实则脆弱的爱情小蓓蕾,在时代的洪流和人性的本能面前都显得那么苍白可笑。

    ——对方要的却偏偏是自己最缺的,爱情的讨人厌就在这里。

    路途当然不是阳光男孩,他心里的伤痕不可治愈,父母的结局让他不安惶恐。所有的开朗大度都是他的刺猬壳,掩盖他那比任何人都更渴望爱,更敏感脆弱的心。如果她是个有情饮水饱的女孩,那么一切都会不一样。然而她绝不止清冷而已,骄傲又自卑,在一起的每一天,都碾压着她的自尊和坚持。

    他可以爱她宠她为她妥协,唯独给不了她平等和自信。她可以放下高冷为他洗手作羹汤,却绝不可能为爱情放弃自己的追求。

    ——遇到你我的心就像遇到了一场地震。如果心不能还我,那么,命你拿走。

    不同于上海滩的明艳,影片里的纽约永远处于一种晦涩难明的状态。幽暗的灯光涌动的人群,声称绝不原谅的路途还是去看了母亲,那一幕,眼中无尽的渴望和落寞。相同的洋基队帽子,母亲满眼宠溺爱抚的终究不是自己。他转身离开,如此,生命的一半已然消失。

    重遇阿鹃,他忘情的吻她,带她离开。两人奔跑时的画面背景是影片少见的饱和色,甚至脸上的表情也是逃命时不该有的祥和甚至希冀,仿佛正在奔向新生活,行将就木的半条命也重新燃起了光辉。然而路途估计错误,不是每个人都像他,冷酷理性的人才能胜者为王。铁栅栏关上的那一刻,注定了这是一场逃不过的生离死别。

    躺在异乡的土地上,路途的心里应该是平静的吧。终于可以不为世情所累,不用为兄弟操心,不用再这么周到体贴。亲情和爱情,终于都失去了。

    ——我需要很多很多的爱,没有爱我会活不下去。

    在微雨黄昏的旧上海,朦胧中我看到了那个坐在巷口不断张望又默默哭泣的男孩儿。

    他叫路途,一个胆怯而勇敢的平凡人。
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  • hiitsmecrystal
    2021/5/19 22:31:55
    (剧透预警)Jules想变得像大海一样
    这篇剧评可能有剧透 原来Jules这么爱Rue 感触很深的有几个片段: Jules说她尝试了一辈子去征服女性特质,有时却感到是女性特质征服了她。 Jules说她想停掉荷尔蒙(激素)她不再想追求传统男性审美里女性的那个样子了 她想变得像大海一样 一样有力量 broad deep and thi
    这篇剧评可能有剧透 原来Jules这么爱Rue 感触很深的有几个片段: Jules说她尝试了一辈子去征服女性特质,有时却感到是女性特质征服了她。 Jules说她想停掉荷尔蒙(激素)她不再想追求传统男性审美里女性的那个样子了 她想变得像大海一样 一样有力量 broad deep and thick 真好啊 Jules说男性追求的...  (展开)
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  • 白露
    2021/8/9 5:35:38
    嗯,很符合清朗行动的主题

    袁冰妍奶甜奶甜的,又是一部护夫剧,但里面对黑子爆料,对行业的黑内部有所揭示,世上最难测的就是人心,在利益面前,曾经的伙伴闺蜜都可以被叛,但最温暖的也是人心,最后帮助你的也是曾经的伙伴!作为一部青春剧,总是充满了正能量!好人总有好报!霍彬的善良获得了唐可儿青睐!纵容后面变漂亮后,有众多追求者,有众多磨难!霍彬哪怕忘了她,她依然坚定的站在他身边,保护他,支持他!所以好人是会有好报的对吗!

    袁冰妍奶甜奶甜的,又是一部护夫剧,但里面对黑子爆料,对行业的黑内部有所揭示,世上最难测的就是人心,在利益面前,曾经的伙伴闺蜜都可以被叛,但最温暖的也是人心,最后帮助你的也是曾经的伙伴!作为一部青春剧,总是充满了正能量!好人总有好报!霍彬的善良获得了唐可儿青睐!纵容后面变漂亮后,有众多追求者,有众多磨难!霍彬哪怕忘了她,她依然坚定的站在他身边,保护他,支持他!所以好人是会有好报的对吗!

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  • dr sammich
    2015/3/9 6:18:22
    han的好脾气可能跟语言有关吗?
    这篇影评纯属娱乐。

    在本季第12集中,两个贱女孩偷了max和caroline的创意,han挺身而出帮其夺回产权,且发表了一篇关于“欺凌”的演讲。他说“每次受到挖苦,都觉得自己失去了一部分(人格),离想要成为的自己也越来越远。”

    奇怪的是,他这篇正气凛然的演讲的拯救对象正是天天欺负他的max。

    其实也不奇怪。因为从第一季以来han对于max的挖苦讽刺脾气一直
    这篇影评纯属娱乐。

    在本季第12集中,两个贱女孩偷了max和caroline的创意,han挺身而出帮其夺回产权,且发表了一篇关于“欺凌”的演讲。他说“每次受到挖苦,都觉得自己失去了一部分(人格),离想要成为的自己也越来越远。”

    奇怪的是,他这篇正气凛然的演讲的拯救对象正是天天欺负他的max。

    其实也不奇怪。因为从第一季以来han对于max的挖苦讽刺脾气一直都很好,最多自己掉头走开或者反唇相讥一句。要是我是han,我早辞退max八百回了。

    不是人人都对max的吐槽如此忍耐,第四季的摄影师,两个偷创意的贱女孩,服装厂的工人,星巴克的员工等等,都明显没有han脾气好。

    当然,这里面有情感因素在。第二季当中max和caroline房租不够,幸而有餐厅家族及时相救,且han深情地说了句:你可以拿我们的钱,因为我们是家人。

    有没有别的原因呢?我前几天瞎想,突然想到,对于han来说英语是第二语言,有没有可能跟语言有关系。

    2003年,三位学者开启了一个项目,测试土耳其语-英语双语大学生对双语的情绪反应。经过一系列测试,发现大学生对于第一语言中的负面表达(如责备、挖苦、禁忌词等)的皮肤电感反应明显比第二语言中的强。他们根据这项发现推测,可能是人在学习第一语言时,对它的隐含意义和指向性更为敏感;而在长到一定年龄学习第二语言时,更为关注的是第二语言的语义层面,对其有效性和应用就关注比较低。

    其实这个很好理解,对于第一语言为普通话的人来说,撕逼的时候“操你妈”比"fuck you"显然来得更劲爆。

    但是sophie和oleg的第一语言也不是英语,那么为什么不能拿他们和han相提并论?

    han第一语言是韩语,韩语当中骂人表达多不多我真的不清楚(以后查一下),但是亚洲语言总体来说在情绪表达上不如英语强烈。一个日本女生YT(拒绝透露具体姓名)说日语中表达强烈情绪的词不多,比如关于“爱”的,所以即使有人跟她说“i love you”,她也无法找到日语中相对应的表达,故对她来说也不能激起很强烈的情绪。

    所以有没有可能han对于max(乃至身边任何人)的讽刺挖苦一直保持着好脾气,一部分是因为他确实脾气好,另外很小的一部分也因为他对英语的挖苦表达反应不如韩语强烈呢?

    其实这个要验证起来很难,因为变量特别多。尤其我们不知道han被韩语挖苦的表现。如果这部剧以后出现类似的情节,可以关注下。

    好啦这个只是个娱乐,无法验证,不要当真。
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  • heartrick
    2017/10/8 23:58:18
    都在说这个电影和传记和实际出入很大
    The Lost City of Z is a very long way from a true story — and I should know
    A new Hollywood film hypes Percy Fawcett as a great explorer. In fact, he was a racist incompetent who achieved very litt
    The Lost City of Z is a very long way from a true story — and I should know
    A new Hollywood film hypes Percy Fawcett as a great explorer. In fact, he was a racist incompetent who achieved very little

    The new film The Lost City of Z is being advertised as based on the true story of one of Britain’s greatest explorers. It is about Lt-Col Percy Fawcett. Greatest explorer? Fawcett? He was a surveyor who never discovered anything, a nutter, a racist, and so incompetent that the only expedition he organised was a five-week disaster. Calling him one of our greatest explorers is like calling Eddie the Eagle one of our greatest sportsmen. It is an insult to the huge roster of true explorers. Had the advertisement been about a soap powder, it would fall foul of the Trade Descriptions Act.

    Percy Fawcett joined the army immediately after school, with a commission in the artillery in 1886. The next 20 years involved garrison duty in Ceylon and postings in Malta and England. The only significant events were getting married and becoming a devotee (like many others) of the charlatan psychic Madame Blavatsky. Fawcett’s game-changer came in 1906, when he was 40. The army let him take the Royal Geographical Society’s course on frontier surveying. Far away in South America, Bolivia had just sold its rubber-rich province of Acre to Brazil, so it needed its new north-western boundary mapped. The Bolivians approached the RGS for a mature surveyor to do this. The society’s secretary asked the newly qualified Fawcett whether he wanted to go; he accepted, reported for duty in La Paz and was at work on the new Amazonian frontier by the end of the year. This survey was the best thing Fawcett did. But he described it as boring, because the new frontier was all along rivers. This was the height of the great Amazon rubber boom, so he and his team cruised from one comfortable rubber barraca to the next, taking their regular measurements.

    Fawcett’s only publications were a series of papers in the Geographical Journal about his mapping work. But he kept a journal, and in 1953 his son Brian edited this and other papers into a book called Exploration Fawcett. He emerges from it as a typical Edwardian colonial officer — friendly with South Americans but looking down on them, appalled by the cruelty at some rubber stations, full of gossip about life on this remote but boom-rich backwater, and uninterested in nature apart from banalities about dangerous snakes and irritating insects.

    In 1908, the Bolivians asked Fawcett to survey another of their frontiers with Brazil: a small river called Verde, far away at the north-eastern corner of the large landlocked country. The preparations were appalling. Fawcett took minimal supplies, since he was accustomed to being fed by rubber stations. This was the end of the dry season with the river at its lowest. So they soon had to abandon their boat and continue on foot. After only a week, all food was exhausted and they were really starving. Fawcett casually remarked that five out of his six peons died from the effects of this five-week disaster. This was the only expedition he led into unexplored territory.

    The Bolivians invited Fawcett back in 1910, this time to map part of their boundary with Peru. It involved paddling up a frontier river called Heath and two meetings with indigenous peoples on the banks. The first group fired arrows and guns over their heads. But Fawcett waded ashore with presents and shouting a few words of ‘Chuncho’ (the Peruvian word for all forest peoples) that he had memorised but did not understand. That was the only time that Fawcett attempted any language other than Spanish. Further up the Heath river, Fawcett met a tribe he called Ecocha (now Ese Eja) whom he really liked. They were ‘embarrassingly hospitable’ with their food, so Fawcett spent a few days with them and recorded something of their ethnography. He returned for a second visit in 1911.

    After a final survey for the Bolivian government in 1913, of the upper Beni river in the Andes, Fawcett went sightseeing in central Bolivia. He and two companions were paddled down the big Guaporé river. They stopped at Mequens on its Brazilian bank to visit the Swedish anthropologist Baron Erland Nordenski?ld and his attractive wife, who provided guides to take them on a walk inland to visit a people they called Maxubi (now Makurap). The Maxubi were friendly and hospitable, but continuing on a forest trail Fawcett met another tribe (probably Sakurabiat) to whom he took a violent dislike. When one aimed a drawn bow at him, Fawcett shot the man with a Mauser revolver — absolutely forbidden by Brazil’s Indian Service. He described them as he imagined Neanderthals or Piltdown Man to have looked: ‘large hairy men, with exceptionally long arms, and foreheads sloping back from pronounced eye ridges… villainous savages, hideous ape men with pig-like eyes.’ No Amazonian Indian has body hair or looks remotely like this — I know, because I have spent time with over 40 different peoples. These two groups, and the two on the Heath, were the only tribal people seen by Fawcett. He liked two of them. So it was strange that he wrote racist gibberish that ‘there are three kinds of Indians. The first are docile and miserable people, easily tamed; the second, dangerous, repulsive cannibals very rarely seen; the third, a robust and fair people, who must have a civilised origin.’

    When Fawcett was in the cattle country of central Bolivia in September 1914, news came of the outbreak of war. So he hurried home and by January 1915 was back in the artillery. In his late forties, he was too old for frontline service; but he fought a good war, ending as Lieutenant-Colonel.

    In one of his pre-war lectures to the RGS, Fawcett had spoken of possible ancient ruins in the Amazon forests. He was now told about a scrap of paper dated 1743 in which bandeirantes imagined that they had seen a deserted city in the jungles. (The bandeirantes were slavers who scoured the interior of Brazil for Indians to capture. Although most of these thugs were illiterate, others did write reports about their travels — none of which said a word about seeing ruins.) Fawcett gave this imaginary ‘lost city’ the codename Z, and finding it became an obsession.

    The easiest forest tribes to visit in Brazil were on the headwaters of one of the Amazon’s southern tributaries, the Xingu. A German anthropologist had contacted a dozen amiable peoples there in 1884; and since then they had been visited by seven groups of anthropologists or Indian Service officials. All had walked in by the same trail. So in 1920 Fawcett tried to follow this route — even though it was nowhere near where the chimera city might have been. His plans went wrong, so he got no further than a ranch halfway along the trail. In 1921 he searched for the mythical city down on the Atlantic coast, by train inland from Salvador da Bahia; but, hardly surprisingly, the miners there knew nothing.

    In 1925, by now penniless but desperate, Fawcett tried again to reach the upper Xingu tribes. He now took two inexperienced ex-public schoolboys, his son Jack and Jack’s friend Raleigh Rimmel. The old surveyor made two suicidal pronouncements. One was that the trio should travel light, with nothing more than small packs. Everyone in Amazonia knew that you could not cut trails and keep your team fed with fewer than eight men. (I can confirm this, having done months of such cutting and carrying.) But Fawcett sent their pack animals and porters back, and continued with only his two novices. His other dictum was that Indians would look after them. This was equally dangerous. The Xingu tribes pride themselves on generosity; but they expect visitors to reciprocate. All expeditions in the past four decades had brought plenty of presents such as machetes, knives and beads. Fawcett had none. He committed other blunders that antagonised their hosts. So it was only a matter of days before they were all dead.

    Twenty years later, Chief Comatsi of the Kalapalo tribe gave a very detailed account of Fawcett’s visit, reminding his assembled people of exactly how they had killed the unwelcome strangers. But the German anthropologist Max Schmidt, who was there in 1926, thought that they had plunged into the forests, got lost and starved to death; this was also the view of a missionary couple called Young who were on another Xingu headwater. The Brazilian Indian Service regretted that Fawcett, who was obsessively secretive, had not asked for their help in dealing with the Indians. They felt he was killed because of the harshness and lack of tact that all recognised in him.

    Such was the sad tale of this incompetent, whose only skill was in surveying. But the disappearance of an English colonel while searching for a mythical ancient city in tropical rain forests was a media sensation. Two expeditions went to try to learn more. There was revived interest in the 1950s with the publication of Exploration Fawcett and the Kalapalo chief’s account of how they killed the Englishmen. Then it was forgotten until 2009 when David Grann, a talented writer, published The Lost City of Z. Unfortunately, Grann hyped the story out of all proportion and wrongly depicted Fawcett as a great explorer.

    As he cheerfully admitted, Grann had no experience of rainforests. But he let his imagination run riot, with pages about ferocious piranhas, huge anacondas, electric eels (actually a fish that has never killed a man), frogs ‘with enough toxins to kill 100 people’, ‘predator’ pig-like peccary, ‘sauba ants that could reduce the men’s clothes to threads in a single night, ticks that attached like leeches (another scourge) and the red hairy chiggers that consumed human tissue. The cyanide-squirting millipedes. The parasitic worms that caused blindness…’ and so on. Everyone who know tropical forests, including me, knows that almost every word of this is nonsense.

    Fawcett himself gave a simple account of his four surveying journeys for the Bolivian government. But for Grann, ‘in expedition after expedition… he explored thousands of square miles of the Amazon and helped redraw the map of South America’. Fawcett admitted that he was ‘a greenhorn in the jungle’ and knew nothing about nature. But Grann wrote that he moved ‘inch by inch through the jungle, tracing rivers and mountains, cataloguing exotic species… [until] he had explored as much of the region as anyone’.

    For Grann, Fawcett was competing against other explorers ‘who were racing into the interior of South America’. The only study that Fawcett made after leaving school in 1886 was his RGS surveying course. He never mentioned any library research. But for Grann he was ‘almost unique’ in viewing 16th- and 17th-century chronicles ignored by other scholars; he re–evaluated El Dorado chronicles and consulted ‘archival records’ and ‘tribesmen’ in ‘piecing together his theory of Z’. Not a word of this was true, either.

    Grann wrote that, as an author, he would have been lost without my three-volume, 2,100-page history of Brazilian Indians and five centuries of exploration. He quotes quite often from my books. So he had no excuse for describing Fawcett’s brief visits to three indigenous villages as the ‘discovery of so many previously unknown Indians’, from whom ‘he learned to speak myriad indigenous languages’, and adopted ‘herbal medicines and native methods of hunting [so that he] was better able to survive off the land’. Equally absurd was his rubbish about cannibalistic tribes, blow guns with poisoned darts, or Kuikuro menacing him with ‘gleaming spears flickering’ from the undergrowth (they never used spears, or had metal even, before their contact 130 years ago).

    When the colonel vanished, Grann writes that ‘scores’ of explorers tried to find him, and that ‘one recent estimate put the death toll from these expeditions as high as 100.’ Actually, only one search expedition reached the Xingu, led by George Dyott in 1928. (It found that the three Englishmen had been killed by Indians.) The only other expedition was in 1932, but it got only as far as the Araguaia river far to the east. The death toll from these two attempts was zero. In 1935 a ridiculous actor called Albert de Winton went by himself to the Xingu and was killed by Indians who wanted his gun. So if we count him, the death toll is one — well short of Grann’s 100.

    These and a great many other passages are artistic licence and hype of an absurd order. Hollywood believed everything Grann wrote, and then hyped it up more. People wishing to learn about the maverick colonel should consult his own fairly modest memoir — not the recent fantasy book and film about him. But I could recommend scores of writings by real explorers.

    John Hemming is a Canadian explorer; the three volumes of his history of Brazilian Indians are Red Gold (1978), Amazon Frontier (1985) and Die If You Must (2004)
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